That still leaves one question unanswered, however. How did the Creator come into existence? Well, an entity that exists outside of time and space would not need an explanation for their existence. After all, things can only begin within time and space. We can assume the Creator would be outside of time and space using Occam’s Razor (1). If the Creator was not outside of time and space, we would have an Infinite Regress problem (2). If things within time and space need an explanation for their existence, then Grandmother Raven, Grandfather Spider, and Bartleby need an explanation for their existence. All three of them clearly exist within time, based on how they act throughout the story. Combining that with the fact that Bartleby told us that a separate Creator exists, we can conclude it was this Creator that created the Wizard101 universe, as well as Grandmother Raven, Grandfather Spider, and Bartleby.
I actually liked that it was so…. Amazing!!
Could the Creator be the one that created the First World? Grandmother Raven, Grandfather Spider, and Bartleby lived around the First World, until its destruction, and when they created the Spiral. Perhaps the Creator disappeared during the fall of the First World… or it was probably an idea forgotten by KI storywriters.
Bartleby said that the Creator made the First World in the quote. An uncaused Creator couldn’t disappear, so it is more likely that the Creator is a deistic one who does not interfere with their creation. And even if KingsIsle forgot the idea, I would argue the older writers have more authority in this area. The newer writers are building off the world built by the older writers, thus, they cannot contradict previously established facts. Furthermore, an uncaused Creator is a logical necessity for this to be a consistent story, and none of the primordial beings we have met match this description.
A bit of stardust and dark matter combined to create Grandfather Spider and he hung in the vastness by his silken thread all alone for aeons until he created Grandmother Raven to keep him company. She was jealous of his silken thread (so tired of the constant flying around) so she snipped it and he fell. He lost his superior powers when his thread was cut, similar to Sampson’s problem, but had enough left to create Bartleby as a roost to stop Raven’s constant flight and his unending free fall. The creator is Molecular Dynamic.
That goes against what Bartleby said, and I doubt that is what the writers had in mind. Even if so, the stardust and dark matter would have to be created.
Later in the game we find that Grandfather Spider/ Old Cob is the third primordial being, he was probably not part of the game lore back at the very inception of wizard101.